The Reader's Digest version of our conversation while walking up the hill to the orchard:

• Max: Is this a race?
• Kevin: Nope, we're just walking.
• M: Can it be a race, with just the two of us?
• K: Sure, it'll be a fast walking race.
• M: Who will be the winner?
• K: I don't know, we haven't finished the race yet.
• M: And why? (Max now says this in response to any answer)
• K: We haven't gotten to the apples yet. When we do, we'll know who won